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I walked the line with the workers on many days and nights during the big strike and I really resent this company coming in and paying cheap wages and managers claiming that the workers don’t want a union.

-- Hollis Stewart


]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:24:42 -0500 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.254 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.255 The American doctrine of Manifest Destiny justified the further mistreatment of Native Americans as the United States expanded westward. The "Trail of Tears" and the "Long Walk of the Navajos" were recorded war crimes of the United States. Innumerable instances exist which are not as infamous. Sherman's March to the Sea is still another war crime done to a civil population of its own citizens. The dropping of the 2 atomic bombs on Japanese civilians is a more recent atrocity.

What does the recent discussion on torture have to say about the United States as a nation, as a people? Nothing different than the 300 years of its past history. The United States is a brutal, inhumane organization which is very slowly developing toward a more humane society. As for its people, may God help them, because they are currently being led by evil people comparable to the Beast of John's Biblical Revelations.]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Put Government) Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:30:44 -0500 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.255 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.199
I don't even have a TV, so I can't watch Fox or any other news channel. Still, I've heard about such tarring of Obama on that channel's airwaves. I've also seen the 18-page "Obama exposed" dossier The idea that the right is giving him a free pass is absurd. On the contrary, they've seen that he fares much better in head-to-head matchups against Republican candidates than Hillary does.

I think we Democrats should avoid trying to earn credentials for our preferred candidates by boasting about how much those candidates have been attacked by the right. We have a very good slate of candidates, all of whom would be a formidable challenge for any of the Republicans in the general election. The Republicans and their allies in the media know this, and they're blasting all the Dems equally.]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Jonathan M) Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:39:13 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.199 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.175
Again, very good article. I agree that we have a tendency to act as if everything is okay but I don't think the tendency is an American phenomenon. I read an article recently about life in the breakaway republics of the former Soviet Union. A woman was asked what it was like to live in the USSR during the year leading up to the dismantling. Her reply was that the average person had no clue that anything was happening. She said the masses lived their lives like everything was okay up until maybe 2 weeks before the wall came down!!

Amazing.]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:49:52 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.175 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170
Thanks for the clarification. I just did not want, in particular, for anyone to think that Congressman Becerra said he wants Bush and Cheney to stay in office so the Republicans will be easier to beat next election. Whatever he might think, that isn't what he said.

Cheers,

-- Dick]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:45:42 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 wrote:

Dear Dick,

I have no objection to posting it in the comments section on the website; in fact I’d be delighted, and thank you and Sharon for the great job you guys are doing. But I am surprised that my perhaps slippery wording or dodgy use of the language has left you with the impression that I have implied that Congressman Becerra or you had suggested that “the reason not to impeach is so that crazy bunch of right-wing nuts are still in office for the 2008 elections.” while we both agree that that is the intention of majority of the right-wing Democrats, I am certain that I did not specify Congressman Becerra or you to have said so, for the record I did not (at least that wasn’t the intension) and for what it’s worth I apologize for the confusion. I should be more cautious in our future correspondence.

See you on the Web site…

Regards,

Ara]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:45:12 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:08 PM
To: Ara Amirkhanian
Subject: RE: XAVIER BECERRA MAY REPRESENT THE 31ST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BUT HE DOES NOT REPRESENT ME

Ara,

Do you mind if I post this exchange as comments to the article Sharon and I wrote on the NEDC website (www.northeastdemocrats.org). We'd like to have this kind of commentary there.

On your response, your passion is admirable but some of your rhetorical games are a bit slippery. For example, neither Congressman Becerra nor our article say some of the things you have "some Democrats saying." He doesn't say and we don't say, for example, that the reason not to impeach is so that crazy bunch of right-wing nuts are still in office for the 2008 elections.

Also, while I personally agree with your main points -- and my wife *really* agrees with you -- you still don't answer the main point of my response: "but again, it's more important to me that we start electing a long string of progressive, populist, left-leaning Congresses and presidents who will undo the damage Reagan, Bush, and Bush have done to my country."

Anyway, let's continue this on the Website, okay?

Cheers,

-- Dick]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:44:41 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 Ara Amirkhanian wrote:

Dear Dick,

Now that they are in control (thanks to the Anti-war sentiments in this country, the Democrats are coming up with all kinds of lousy and false excuses to slow down or altogether avoid, impeaching the criminals in the White House. job

You had commented below that “Xavier Becerra says that he does favor impeaching Bush and Cheney, but thinks that the effort would take the rest of their term, likely not succeed, and certainly divert from efforts to begin getting the country out of Iraq and back on track.” So I’d like to ask him a couple of simple questions.

How does Becerra think that the justice system should deal with a criminal in this country? What is U.S. policy in regards to dealing with traitors to our Nation? What do we do with someone who does not respond to subpoenas issued by Congress or the courts? Since when do we avoid prosecuting someone in this country because it takes too long? What is this excuse that they would be out of office before they are impeached? Who cares if they are?

Almost very member of the Bush Cabinet is guilty of at least on or more of the following:


1. Lying misinforming, and manipulating the American people to take them to an illegal war, which put our Nation, our troops, the people they took an oath to protect in harms way.



2. Misinforming the public about the dangers to our Nation. (Saddam/ Al Qaeda/ 911 connection)



3. Use of illegal weapons under international and domestic laws (depleted Uranium, and cluster bombs and many more)



4. Attempting to legalize and authorize the use of torture (Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Bush et al)



5. Perjury and conspiracy to commit perjury (Carl Rove, Chaney et al)



6. Money laundering and Racketeering (Libby)



7. Outing of a CIA undercover agent which possibly has caused the death off many involved (Treason by those responsible)



8. Supporting and funding terrorist States (Al Qaeda, Saddam et al)



9. Profiting from Financial dealings with a country under strict U.S. sanctions (Chaney while CEO of Halliburton from 1997 to 2000)



10. Illegal Wire taping and eves dropping on Americans (Bush, Chaney et al)



11. Lying to the 9/11 commission (Rice, tenet et al)



12. Lying to the Congress



13. Misleading the Congress



14. Overt Secrecy under the guise of National Security



15. And many actions that are deemed unconstitutional.


They ought to be imprisoned for what they’ve done to this country not given an easy way out, and that is what the Democrats are doing.

When Asked by a supporter whether there was a way citizens could impeach Bush "here and now," Senator Feingold said he first wants to hear the administration's justification for conducting domestic surveillance before determining what, if any, punishment should occur… Once that is known, there should be accountability. "I'm not going to prejudge what that accountability should be." he said. But what is there for the Administration to justify? They have already admitted on doing the crime. There is no question about that; none; legally or otherwise.
So why delay???

There are a few hidden reasons why the Democrats are reluctant to hold the administration accountable and the Democratic Party isn’t behind the Impeachment efforts, neither of which speak very highly of them— the Democrats are once again putting what they think is best for the party ahead of what’s best for the country.


1. Democrats want Bush & Cheney to be in office in 2008 so they can use their unpopularity to win more elections.



2. They say that they are reluctant because the impeachment will require Republican support; they fear that it can’t be successful. “Supporting a failed attempt would look bad” for them. They say.


This retreat and the overtly cautious approach by the timid Democrats today only encourages the so called leaders (corporate prostitutes as I like to call them) in Washington to allow the illegal occupation of Iraq to continue and maybe even turn it into a perpetual war as their war profiteering corporate friends would like it to be by attacking Iran; Syria and who know where next; risk the lives of our young and brave kids, while these same politicians won’t even risk their careers.

If they aren’t reelected politicians have a grater chance of recovery from their failed careers than dead and some luckier maimed soldiers, and war ridden Iraqi civilians. That’s why we need to demand that all politicians to get off of their fragile butts and push for the impeachment. We’ll need to shame some of them into doing the right thing, and many Americans intent to do just that. There are no excuses to close our eyes to the crimes against humanity perpetrated by these Neo-Cons.

These criminals are not above the law and they sure as hell can’t be allowed to escape their responsibility and accountabilities simply because they are public officials. They were entrusted these positions to serve us, not vise versa. Our system isn’t a dictatorship (yet).

And if the Democrats play it right which I highly doubt it from what I see, we will not turn into one anytime soon.

I thank you for responding to my earlier ranting, and I apologize if I sound less forgiving than you may have chose to be, and for my long winded response to your e-mail. I also appreciate your willingness and courage to cover the impeachment attempts, and I hope you will have good input to be able to do a comprehensive coverage of that story.

Warmest regards,

Ara
]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:44:14 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:24 AM
To: Ara Amirkhanian
Cc: Dick & Sharon Kyle Price
Subject: Re: XAVIER BECERRA MAY REPRESENT THE 31ST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BUT HE DOES NOT REPRESENT ME

Ara,

Xavier Becerra says that he does favor impeaching Bush and Cheney, but thinks that the effort would take the rest of their term, likely not succeed, and certainly divert from efforts to begin getting the country out of Iraq and back on track.

My wife and I interviewed Xavier for our Northeast Democratic Club newsletter and we supported him in the last election (and will likely support him next time), but we don't work for him or think exactly the same way he does.

I would like to take quicker and more drastic action along the lines that you have listed -- impeachment, indictment, speedy end to the misbegotten Iraq Occupation -- but again, it's more important to me that we start electing a long string of progressive, populist, left-leaning Congresses and presidents who will undo the damage Reagan, Bush, and Bush have done to my country.

We are thinking of doing a story on impeachment efforts here in Northeast LA for our newsletter. We just need to get with some people who can talk to us about those efforts.

-- Dick
]]> noauthor@nospam.com (Dick & Sharon) Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:43:37 -0400 http://www.northeastdemocrats.org/comment.php?comment.news.170